Season 2 · Episode 17 · Dec 22, 2025

Dan Swander on Consumer Brands, Management, and Giving Back

Hosted by Charlie Martin & Jack NelsonAlumni50 minutes

In Episode 17 of Season Two of The Late Start Show, we sit down with Mr. Dan Swander ’61, University School lifer, veteran consumer products executive, and co-founder of consulting firm Swander Pace & Company and private equity firm Swander Pace Capital. Growing up in the backyard of the Shaker Campus, Dan shares memories of walking across the fields to kindergarten, remembering every teacher from first grade through senior year, and having US at the center of his life. He reflects on the mentors who shaped him such as his coaches and teachers, the early days of sixth-grade football and undefeated varsity soccer, and what’s changed (and what hasn’t) as US evolved into a two-campus, more diverse, greater-Cleveland school community. He traces an “unplanned” career from Trinity College and Wharton to McKinsey, built around curiosity, a love of consumer products, and the occasional unconventional answer, like telling a McKinsey psychologist he’d come back as an otter.


From turning around a struggling food company by taking office doors off their hinges to helping build large brands, Dan unpacks the leadership principles that have guided him: flipping the leadership chart upside down, betting on teams instead of lone geniuses, and focusing on real dollar margins instead of just percentages. He talks candidly about short attention span in modern entrepreneurship, how AI and automation will reshape work while opening doors in skilled trades, and what it was like to balance six kids with a demanding career. Now deeply involved in his church and Winter Nights Family Shelter, Dan reflects on legacy, service, and staying engaged, and shares his “why”: to stay curious, work hard, make mistakes, give back to his community, and wake up each day asking, “What can I do that matters today?”


Credits to Theo Walter for Production and Editing, Russ Nobles for the Intro and Outro songs, Mr. Wickboldt for being our advisor, and you for listening to our podcast and keeping up with the latest US news.

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